forum style

[eclectica]

http://www.3-3-3.org/style-default.gif

Fonts
large font= tahoma (size 3)
main font= tahoma (size 2)
main font= tahoma (size 1)

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I took the original style that comes with vBulletin and modified the colors on it. The fff8e9 color for the text comes from this site:
http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~kgb/cosspec/

They determined that all the stars have a color that is on average like this:
http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~kgb/cosspec/IllE-gam.png

That is close to html color fff8e9. So when you see the text on this forum, it's like you're in outer space and you're looking at the stars. Or maybe it's like the thousand points of light that Bush used to talk about?
:rolleyes:

[nicobie]

Come on eclurkie,

who gives a shit anyway?

[nicobie]

Except I just can't stand the way U list the year 1st on all the dates.

It's against nature.

We all know what year it is, 'cause it only changes once a year, duh.

The day and month change much more often, double duh.

In fact it would be much more useful if the BB kept track of what day it is. as in Tues,6/4/3.

U have to admit that this is WAY better that what U do now.

Aren't You Mr. logical?

[eclectica]

Originally posted by nicobie
U have to admit that this is WAY better that what U do now.

Aren't You Mr. logical?
Although humans typically count from 1 to 10, it is more logical to count from 0 to 9. Perhaps I am too logical?

Building a clockwork human is like building a clockwork orange.

Do you think it can be done, Nic?

[nicobie]

Ha,

when did the new Milena start?

2000 or 2001?

[mekajinn]

Originally posted by eclectica
Although humans typically count from 1 to 10, it is more logical to count from 0 to 9. Perhaps I am too logical?

Building a clockwork human is like building a clockwork orange.

Do you think it can be done, Nic?

have u ever built a clockwork orange? or even a clockwork human for that matter?

this place is full of fucking nutbars i reckon... i mean... MJ... roars when he's cumming? why? is he holding the tweezers too hard?

it's coming to something when nicobie and dollar are the voice of reason :coward:

[Dollar_Girl]

My child... when the clouds part to reveal the golden rays of light beaming onto this sacred land, and the birds start singing while the breeze gently brushes against your bold patches... then u know, ur life has been changed by the Great Reason of THE Dalai_Dollar :eatout:

[mekajinn]

Originally posted by Dollar_Girl
My child... when the clouds part to reveal the golden rays of light beaming onto this sacred land, and the birds start singing while the breeze gently brushes against your bold patches... then u know, ur life has been changed by the Great Reason of THE Dalai_Dollar :eatout:

at least i aint got bald patches then eh? :eatout:

[Dollar_Girl]

yeah it was a toss up between BALD and BOLD... bald we are all used to... but bold patches? what is that like nasty colour pigmentation? dood, shoo, shoo away :beer:

[mekajinn]

okily =]

[eclectica]

For fun I was thinking of setting the text to be the same color as the background. That way it would save electricity on the monitor. I'm sure the environmental fruitcakes from California, who enjoy blackouts and other inconveniences in order to avoid rate increases, would appreciate the gesture. To read the text on the board, you would copy the contents of the forum onto a program like notepad to read it. It would have a really cool feel to it, like reading invisible ink.

How about an eyesight test in which I set the text to be a shade of grey barely lighter than the background? 010101 is the darkest shade of grey possible.

This is a good opportunity to learn html colors. The three primary colors are red, green, and blue. In the six digit numbers the first two are red, the second two are green, and the last two are blue. The numbers use a hexadecimal system, from 0 through f. F is the brightest value while 0 means off. So red would be color ff0000, green is 00ff00, and blue is 0000ff. Black is 000000, white is ffffff, and shades of grey are where all the three primary color values are the same, such as 444444, 999999, a9a9a9, and so on. Two digits represent each of the primary colors, and the one to the left has greater value. It's like in our numbering system, where 80 is more than 08. Because it is hexadecimal, the number to the left has sixteen times the value as the number to the right of the pair. So 202020 is sixteen times as bright (more white) than 020202.

[nicobie]

Again,

Who gives a shit.

U act like a rattle-can/spray bomb....

They'll only cover when agitated.


What makes U different?

[eclectica]

I think it would be great if when software versions are released, they use the date of the release to specify the version, instead of numbers like version 1.0, 2.0 and so on. That way people would know how outdated their versions of a program are.

[nicobie]

Originally posted by eclectica
I think it would be great if when software versions are released, they use the date of the release to specify the version, instead of numbers like version 1.0, 2.0 and so on. That way people would know how outdated their versions of a program are.

That makes sense, kinda like windows 98?

hahahahaha

U still are a dork about the way U list todays date.

Y don U just back down off U're throne (toilet?) and admit U're wrong & passin' gas again.


jus, just, Just choke it up and realize your destiny. hehe

[eclectica]

Searching Google in the images section I found some cool looking logos, by looking for "inferno logo".
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=inferno+logo&btnG=Google+Search

[eclectica]

I'm stealing all the buttons from ogrish.com (http://forum.ogrish.com/). Once again I've shown myself to be a master of theft of other forums.

[eclectica]

Damn, there's too much red on the board now. Maybe I'll change the hyperlink colors to something else.

[eclectica]

They have some cool smilies (http://forum.ogrish.com/misc.php?s=&action=showsmilies) there too. Now all that's left to do is hijack their domain.
:jihad:

[Pii]

the coloR bluE



iT hurts the iiiiiiiiiiiii

[napho]

You might be messing with the wrong people at ogrish. :eek: http://forum.ogrish.com/images/smilies/smilie_death.gifhttp://forum.ogrish.com/images/smilies/smilie_splatter.gifhttp://forum.ogrish.com/images/smilies/smiliewhipped2.gif

[eclectica]

Originally posted by napho
You might be messing with the wrong people at ogrish.
You know, I was thinking that, but I realize that messing with them is just the next level in the game, after humiliating both the Napsterites (http://www.p2p-zone.com/) and unNapsterites (http://www.tehru.org/) forums.

Now I just need those matching buttons for the PM and calendar sections, but they don't have them at ogrish.com.

I actually woke up this morning expecting to find the board looking terrible, but I like the new colors after seeing them.

[eclectica]

Originally posted by Pii
the coloR bluE

iT hurts the iiiiiiiiiiiii
You ought to be careful about what gets into your eye.
:blowjob:

[Dollar_Girl]

i like the blue...


it is much more harmonious than the chaotic red :angel:

[nicobie]

What a blow hard........

U think U're big man?

heshe

[nicobie]

Originally posted by nicobie
What a blow hard........

U think U're da big man?

heshe

ever been introduced to brawlhall?

Now that's mean.

[badfish_76]

Life fucking blows..........It hurts the heart and mind and scars your soul for eternity!!!!!!!!!!:sad: :bluefish: :confused: :coward: :sad: :mad:

[eclectica]

Originally posted by badfish_76
Life fucking blows..........It hurts the heart and mind and scars your soul for eternity
What's wrong girlfriend; are you feeling blue?

Ironically, even the bad experiences and bad things which we try to avoid become part of our history and experiences too. Life would be incomplete if it was only one of happiness. There is a Nietzsche saying that says: "What does not kill us will make us stronger."

[nicobie]

Originally posted by eclectica


There is a Nietzsche

Hahahahahhaaaa

What a goose 'suse my spellin'

[eclectica]

I found a site called vBulletinTemplates (http://www.vbulletintemplates.com) that has smilies, buttons, and other items in this section (http://www.vbulletintemplates.com/mods/forumdisplay.php?f=34). I just uploaded the Black/Dark Red button set onto this forum.

[eclectica]

Do you folks have any suggestions for different colors? I know there were a few complaints about the various colors this board has had, and up until now there has been no choice. I'm thinking of giving you a choice now. I am going to leave the default as it is. What I'm wondering instead is if you would like to suggest some colors different from what the board is currently using for my design of a second style which will be optional. In other words, if you were given the option of a style you would like, tell me, and I will make it. Keep in mind that all the buttons and the "inferno" logo on top will still be the same due to my desire for simplicity. The page background color will still be black so that we can all use font colors without having to worry about what style the person is using.

Here are the adjustable color parameters:

1. Page Text Color
2. Table Border Color
3. Category Strip Background Color
4. Category Strip Font Color
5. Table Heading Background Color
6. Table Heading Text Color
7. First Alternating Table Background Color
8. Second Alternating Table Background Color
9. Link Color
10. Hover Color for Links
11. Time Color

You can refer to the screen shot at the beginning of this thread to know what each parameter does. Also you can choose a different font. The default style is using the "tahoma" font. Try experimenting in a program like "notepad" to see if there are different fonts you like.

You can refer to this page for the six digit code of common html colors:
http://html-color-codes.com/

[eclectica]

http://www.3-3-3.org/style-alternative.gif

Fonts
large font= papyrus (size 4)
main font= papyrus (size 3)
small font= papyrus (size 2)

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I've created a new alternate style for those of you would like to choose a different look. If you want to change to the alternative style, go here (http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/member.php?s=&action=editoptions) to where it says "Style Set". What colors and font would you like this alternative style to have? I look forward to your feedback. (See the post right above this one too.)

[Criminal_Sniper]

my windows id modified to be black and red
its looking awesome now?

wrong AGAIN nicobie i care
theres a difference between u and everyone
ur opinions are not very valid let alone widespread

nice job E
thing about counting

and quit telling him how he does his dates wrong
i label my photos i take with the year first
or u get a collection like many others
1-1-2000
1-1-2001
2-1-2000

what sort of order is that

and numbers do start from zero
whats 1 - 1? 0 right
how can the first year have been called one when a full 1 year hasnt happened yet

E is right nicobie is critical of everything but not in a very well working kind of way
u people done binary? 7 or 16 base?
goes to show that we can only judge with what we know
i could make a new number system and not even use normal number and not group it for money maybe for months or something
its all relative

[eclectica]

I found an interesting font for the Alternative style called "Papyrus". But it doesn't seem to work on the Lindows computer with a Mozilla 1.6 browser for Linux. I'm not sure how universal the fonts are, but I see that also the Tahoma font doesn't look proper on the Lindows computer either. It works okay when using the Mozilla 5 browser for Windows though.

Check out the screenshot of the Papyrus font.

[Dollar_Girl]

you know, for the first time ever, i jsut went and changed my forum theme... i thought i wanted one that wasn't BLACK coz for the past 5 days everytime i see a mass of black it sends these unberable shivers through my entire body, coz i for some reason recently have started associating it with people scratching their nails down a black board, and i changed it to 'alternative'... and i know it is black, but it is the best theme i have ever come across. I dont feel comfortable posting at forums that arent' black, for some reason, that is why i love the themes here... but this one is the best ever ever ever.

[eclectica]

Is it the font that you like the best in the Alternative theme? It reminds me of the album cover for King Crimson - Red.
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd800/d857/d85727ox50f.jpg

I find that at first after creating a style, that it looks good, but then after a while I get sick of them. I like the default style the best. The Papyrus font is hard to read on the eyes.

Within two weeks there should be a newer version of vBulletin installed on this forum, so that ought to change how things look around here, and everything will have to be readjusted.

[Dollar_Girl]

yeah the font.... its different... thats what i like, coz it adds some character. anyway i also like the green title thingies, nice touch

[eclectica]

wow, fucking cool, that you can post a reason for deleting a post now. I read it before you deleted it though.
:jerkoff:

Eventually I hope to make the place look better than it is now

For starters, I will eliminate the eleven gay smilies

EDIT:
not everyone is gay in the RIAA

[Beejus]

not to be a pestimist but uh... this vBulletin version 3 skin is kinda killing the Inferno theme :-P a little ....bright I guess is the word I'm looking for.... although, I do like the looks of it, I just think it needs some additions

[eclectica]

not to be a pestimist but uh... this vBulletin version 3 skin is kinda killing the Inferno theme
You mean this theme now, or the other theme which seems to have disappeared?

[Beejus]

the theme that had disappeared is the one I'm talking about....


I would like this one, but I hate the rough ridges around the icons...how they aren't matching with the black background...I know I'm weird, but that sort of thing just bugs the piss outta me...

[eclectica]

This is the final version of vBulletin 3. The icons and colors bother me too, and eventually will be fixed or adjusted in some way. I still have the old icons saved, which I might upload again. Here you go:
http://forum.ogrish.com/
:axeman:

[Criminal_Sniper]

i think its worse actually
i go to send a pm and figure out i have to copy n paste the name to it
hack it to make it better
simple is easier
:devil: hell yeah

[eclectica]

:clap:
It looks terrible

hopefully I can improve things tomorrow

[eclectica]

You can adjust the text size with Netscape but not with Internet Explorer.

[Dollar_Girl]

i really dislike everything that has changed here


simple is better...


and the text size tha ti can't adjust makes my eyes and head hurt, which means i can't read posts on this forum without a seizure :coffee:

[Criminal_Sniper]

i like it and i dont kinda
in opera it looks worse (i mean really worse) than in mozilla
something in between maybe

[eclectica]

The text size is now adjustable in Internet Explorer. I changed the font size from "10pt" to "medium".
:D

[eclectica]

Check out when you log out from the forum, how the screen goes to a grey look. They're trying to get that XP look.

[eclectica]

i've got autoresponse ticked..and i had the actual contents of ur reply sent to my emailbox so i didn't really need to log in to read this.

i really love that behaviour..the old kazaa forums had that behavior (phorum 3.11a i think) and zeropaid did briefly..zeropiad still hasn't figured out how to make the text size adjustable in i.e...i pm'd sephiroth about it but got no reply back from him.

only thing i am concerned about is when and or if i delete a post..and the person i didn't want seeing what i deleted sees it anyway..i'm gonna delete this post just to see if you can still see it (that is if u have autosendarespone when new thread is posted checked..ie.'you are subscribed to this thread')

here goes..deleting in 3,2,1..hey try and add this post back after i delete it (it's so rare u get to flex that 'admin muscle'
I'm no forum genius, but the dudes at Zeropaid are just plain retarded and make me feel pretty good about myself in comparison.
:retarded:

It restored the post as you can see. Not only that but it changed the numbering of the posts below it in this thread. A direct link to the post is
http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/showpost.php?p=3183&postcount=49
Now if you delete it, would the post below that one come up when clicking on that link then, I wonder?

When a person edits a post do you get updates as well?

[eclectica]

The Alternative style has been restored again. It was easy to do. All I had to do was take the Inferno style and modify a few things. I went through all the setting and modified the following colors and fonts:
fff8e9 --> cccccc
ff9933 --> 55bb22
ff0000 --> dd7711
tahoma --> papyrus

You can change your board setting of the style you want here (http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/profile.php?do=editoptions). I had a problem with it working in Internet Explorer, but it worked okay in Netscape. It could be because of a cookies issue, and I also have trouble logging out from the board using Internet Explorer too. After logging out try being offline from the forum for more than the cookie session length, which is 30 minutes, to see if that fixes the problem.

[Dollar_Girl]

lets not go crazy with talk of cream or off-white... i mean there is a line, and cream would be crossing it.

[eclectica]

try replying to this message or the last message in this thread..then click on 'more smilies'..what happens?
On the "More" with IE I get this link:
http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3238#
with Netscape I get this link:
http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=3238#
But actually what happens is that a smilies box pops up. Maybe it has to do with your browser settings, of allowing popups. What do you see when clicking on the "More"?

[Criminal_Sniper]

its seems to be running fairly smoothly
and i found out how to send pm's the short way

[eclectica]

Fortunately "Inferno" is a common name, so it's easy for me to find plenty of graphical versions of it floating around. The logo on top is copied from inferno.li (http://inferno.li/). I was just searching around and found another site here (http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/) and took their logo, opened it with MS Paintbrush (no 1337 Photoshop needed), and used the black with a brush to get rid of the words "4th edition" so that it could make a good logo as well. I'll keep this for potential future use...as soon as I can figure out how to get attachments working.

[-GS-]

About colors:

I like the colors in Cold Meat Industry (http://www.coldmeat.se/home.html) site a lot.

I use OrangeCD (http://www.firetongue.com/) to organize my
mp3 collection, that app. has an option to export the database to html using
CMI style and colors, (some guy did the rip-off) and you can see the same
colors in use in my Brian Setzer (http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/feeltehluv/) collection site. Beware thought, Lycos is know of Ads.
(...ruins my site completely..)

I like the colors a lot, maybe the text is too small, but the colors are nice.
So is the colden 1-pixel frames around the pictures too..

:)

[eclectica]

The Cold Meat Industry site looks depressing and sick to me, though on first glance it looks cool. Basically I like all colors and themes when I first see them, but after a while I get sick of some faster than others. So the good ones are the ones that don't sicken me after a long term exposure. I like the colors here (http://www.netrn.net/spywareblog/) on this page, how everything is black, white, a shade of grey, and the blue hyperlinks, and how they turn to green when they are active.

One of my least favorite colors is dark blue.

[-GS-]

Atleast we both seem to like Dark Pages. ;)
My eyes get tired real fast on bright pages,
thats my excuse.

The bad thing about dark pages is,
it can be hard to read at day time.
Like now, we got sun in here and i have to
focus real hard to see some of the dark coloured text
in a dark background.
I guess i look like a Cat taking a dumb.

Cant wait for the little hours.

:)

[eclectica]

There is an option to display threads in the forum with the avatar and username on top of the post (postbit), or the classic arrangement with the avatar and username on the left side of the page (postbit legacy). We are using the classic setting here.

I just figured out how to get the vertical bar between the avatars and the posts, which disappeared with the upgrade to vB3. I found the postbit_legacy templates in both styles on the board and changed this setting:
cellspacing="0"
to this:
cellspacing="1"

[eclectica]

The "papyrus" font which is displayed in the "alternative" style doesn't even work right with Windows Millennium. What I see instead is a font that looks similar to Times New Roman.

[eclectica]

The "papyrus" font stopped working with Windows XP, so I switched the Alternative style to use "trebuchet ms", which is the same font that Tehru uses in [Dark] Wide (http://www.tehru.org/?styleid=14), my favorite style over there. I thought it was a nice looking font. I'll have to test it on other operating systems and browsers to see how if it works. Is the font too big, or should I change anything?

[slx]

if you hadn't told me, i'd never have known

[tim]

The "papyrus" font stopped working with Windows XP, so I switched the Alternative style to use "trebuchet ms", which is the same font that Tehru uses in [Dark] Wide (http://www.tehru.org/?styleid=14), my favorite style over there. I thought it was a nice looking font. I'll have to test it on other operating systems and browsers to see how if it works. Is the font too big, or should I change anything?

Are you sure that is the reason it quit working? Did you look at it in IE or Firefox? I think the papyrus font is proprietary to m$ browsers and doesn't get recognised by firefox. Of course I'm on win98 without too many updates.

The new font looks fine in IE but was kinda small in firefox..so I had to hit 'increase font size' once to get it to look the way I like which is 3pt font size...looked like it was 2pt before I did that.

Most default webfont sizes are 3pt font.

[eclectica]

Fonts seem to be affected by the operating system rather than by the browser, because fonts don't come with browsers. It's easy enough to install fonts on Windows, by getting a hold of the font's ttf file and installing it in c:\windows\fonts. I don't know how it's done on other operating systems. Some sights are charging a lot for those fonts, but it should be easy to find free versions. It's hard to find fonts that work with all operating systems made by Mac, Linux, and Windows. I think such fonts are called web-safe fonts (http://www.i4image.com/resources_wsfont.shtml).

I must have been wrong about the papyrus font because it doesn't come with Windows, nor is it that widespread. I don't know how I got it on my computer to start with, but after I formatted my hard drive last year it disappeared. If you want to see what fonts you have available on your computer, look in Notepad.

[eclectica]

Initially when I tried to come up with a font color for the forum I based it on the scientific study which provided a png image (http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~kgb/cosspec/IllE-gam.png) of what was determined to be the average color of all the stars in the sky. At first I thought that the .png image provided by the study was closest to color fff8e9, based on my visual approximation, but actually I looked again recently at the .png file and I found technical information within the file making it exactly fff8e7, which was close to my initial guess. I changed the font colors on the forum to reflect the more accurate information.

I introduced a third fourth style into the forum, which is pretty similar to the default Inferno style. It uses the blue and green colors that this forum used to have as the default between July and October 2003. I was able to get those colors back by viewing them from October 2003 at archive.org as you can see here (http://web.archive.org/web/20031008170112/www.3-3-3.org/forum/).

I recently discovered that when it comes to customizing the templates (http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/showthread.php?t=452) on the forum, that instead of having to customize the templates in all styles manually, the process would be made easier by setting up one as a "parent style", so that the templates in the "child styles" below it would also be customized as well at the same time. That reduced the workload of modifying templates on the forum, as there now is only one parent style "Inferno" that I need to modify the templates on.

I changed the font of the Alternative style to papyrus, trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica. It is listed in that order to let the browser know the priority a font is given. The browser checks the computer's hard drive and operating system for fonts, which is where the fonts are stored. Standard fonts come with an operating system but you can find places such as this site (http://www.webpagepublicity.com/free-fonts.html) which allow you to install extra fonts. In a Windoze computer they are located in the folder WINDOWS\Fonts in the form of .ttf files which can be copied into there. For example, If you view the Alternative style without the papyrus font installed on your computer, the browser will then try to display it using the trebuchet ms font if that is installed on your computer, and then if not it will try to display it using the arial font, and so on. That is why it is good to have common backup fonts in the list as I have done, so that hopefully one of them on a list will work. But if none work that does not mean that no text will be displayed. Rather it means that either the browser or the operating system; and I'm not sure which one; will choose one.


Here are the specifications of the board colors that are common to all four styles:

background: 000000
table border: 777777
category strips: 333333
table header: 000000
table footer: 333333
first alternating color: 000000
second alternating color: 000000

Form Width 720px
User Control Panel Form Width 480px
Message Area Width 640px
User Control Panel Message Area Width 380px
Code Block Width 480px


Here are some of the specifications of the four individual styles:

Inferno (http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/index.php?styleid=5) (Parent style)

font color: fff8e7
small font:
main font size:
font family:
normal links: ff0000 (text decoration = none)
visited links: ff0000 (text decoration = none)
hover links: ffff00 (text decoration = underline)
category strips + table header/footer font color: ff9933

highlighted font
font color: 00ff33
font size: 24pt
font family:


Inferno-converse (http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/index.php?styleid=9)

font color: fff8e7
small font:
main font size:
font family: tahoma, samanata
normal links: ff9933 (text decoration = none)
visited links: ff9933 (text decoration = none)
hover links: ffff00 (text decoration = underline)
category strips + table header/footer font color: ff0000

highlighted font
font color: 00ff33
font size: 24pt
font family: tahoma, samanata


Gaia (http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/index.php?styleid=8)

font color: fff8e7
small font: small
main font size: medium
font family: tahoma, verdana, lucida
normal links: 6688ff (text decoration = none)
visited links: 6688ff (text decoration = none)
hover links: ffff00 (text decoration = underline)
category strips + table header/footer font color: 33bb33

highlighted font
font color: ff0000
font size: xx-large
font family: georgia bold italic


Alternative (http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/index.php?styleid=7)

font color: bbbbbb
small font: small
main font size: medium
font family: papyrus, dustismo, trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica
normal links: dd7711 (text decoration = none)
visited links: dd7711 (text decoration = none)
hover links: ffff00 (text decoration = underline)
category strips + table header/footer font color: 22aa22

highlighted font
font color: ff0000
font size: xx-large
font family: georgia bold italic