High School Graduation

[Beejus]

I graduate Sunday, June 6th 2004 @ 1PM EST at the Machias Memorial High School Gym .....

I can't believe how quick these 4 years have been.... I really don't know what to say in this thread... I thought I was ready to leave this place and become an adult...but I'm so fucked up in the head right now by all these thoughts that I just feel so lost...

(this is a venting thread for now...possibly later I'll brag it all up, but not right now)

[eclectica]

I graduated from High School in 1989. My claim to fame in school was that I was voted "most individual" and "most controversial".

My time in high school was slow compared to how the years go for me now.

What are your plans for work or for college?

[Criminal_Sniper]

well done
i didnt finish school
but i think ive learnt more out of school than when i was there
theres always more to go
hope u arent feeling too bad
we are all here to talk
(and i turned 20 the other day) :)
btw who likes my avatar?
nick berg for those who dont know

[Beejus]

1 hour and 25 minutes to go...

On my way out the door...its fucking hot out and the damn dress up clothes don't help!

[Criminal_Sniper]

the girl i have a great connection with we are great friends but she has a habit of getting one bad guy after the next
its the worst situation knowing that the one who may be ur soulmate may never be urs

i hated school
anyone else got that same feeling?
i should ask who dosent? :p
i learnt more afterewards and more of the stuff i want to learn
i think we need to totally redo the education system

[nicobie]

It's all good.

Enjoy...........

[Dollar_Girl]

i remember my graduation too, since it wasn't too long ago, and i remember everyone crying and hugging, saying 'goodbye', i just stood around thinking i couldn't wait to get the fuck out of there. Then there is the dance thing u have following graduation night... my poor parents forked out like a weeks wages for my dress, coz i went dressed as a gothic medieval type person, in a black lace-up corset and those cool medieval sleeves. Meanwhile that dress was worn for about 2 hours and then stuffed into a garbage bag and into the back of the closet.

Dude, congrats on graduation, but u will make stronger friendships out of highschool... even if it is with the ppl u went to highschool with... ur friendships with those closest to u, will evolve to a whole new level, while the others will just fade away.

you've got a heart, your're smart, your gorgous, u will do good young music crusader.

[eclectica]

I didn't like school. College was better though. I didn't like being in the military either. A lot of time I get uncomfortable dreams in which I am either back in college or I have joined the Army again.

I had one semester to go before finishing college with a Bachelor's degree as a philosophy major, and I postponed it when I signed up for the Army Reserves. After coming back from the Army Reserves training I no longer had the patience for college because I felt that most of the kids were there just to get a degree, and it was wasteful. I never finished my schooling.

I know dudes who are dumb with degrees and those who have no college degrees to be pretty smart. I think one ought to get at least a High School degree, but actually taking a GED test equivalent could be easier if you don't want to deal with school.

If you have an interest in learning then that is what will make you smart, not whether you have a degree.

While discrimination based on gender or race is not tolerated, there is still a toleration towards education discrimination, with employers not hiring people without degrees or paying them less. It's a continued cycle of inequality because one has to be wealthy in order to go to school and to devote one's full time to studies without having to work a job on top of it.

[slx]

i think we need to totally redo the education systemhow so?

[slx]

If you have an interest in learning then that is what will make you smart, not whether you have a degree.



how philosophical.....true



While discrimination based on gender or race is not tolerated, there is still a toleration towards education discrimination, with employers not hiring people without degrees or paying them less. It's a continued cycle of inequality because one has to be wealthy in order to go to school and to devote one's full time to studies without having to work a job on top of it.inequality?

perhaps after all this time/space, we still have to work for the things we want

[Criminal_Sniper]

too true E
everyone is good at something aswell
just hope its the thing u like

and slx see how schools now teach u what they want u too?
but they also do it their way
if theres not enough students in a class then u miss out on something huge in ur life
i dont think there should be grades or years in schools
or division of subjects

now if students were just given project after another after another..and so on, and we left to do things in their own speed and style
would they not have a healthier school enviroment?

i have to teach myself how to learn now
i find myself readin faster & understanding more, typing faster and more accurate.

i cant remember shit from school cept the basics and history and science
though ive forgotten some of those things -some basic -some advanced
things are learnt through repetition, practice, and asking and trying to answer questions

if im right or not the school system is not very good
university is much better from what ive heard
i beat my friends that go to uni when it comes to computers and i dont even have the basic certificates
who knows? :p

[dead_man]

i have never been and never will go to any school or college graduation, presentation or reunion.

[Criminal_Sniper]

i HAD to go to one presentation
i wouldnt have got it if i didnt
load of shit if ya ask me

and slx i forgot to answer this b4
working for things we want and in/equality
we should work for things we want?
what about thieves and the government?
the government takes money from us and says that they will spend big and create jobs, we will be given lots of services, happyness and they will protect us.

now we are unemployed, poor, deprived of services and if we get them we pay for them (didnt tax cover it?) and we are no safer actually id rather be in the dark ages at least i would see it coming

i think its fucking time we took some control back
they are owned by us why dont we treat them like the bitches they are

ill shut up now before the black hawks start flying abovehead lol

[eclectica]

actually id rather be in the dark ages at least i would see it coming
lol
:behead: :axe:

[slx]

and slx i forgot to answer this b4
working for things we want and in/equality
we should work for things we want?
what about thieves and the government?

now we are unemployed, poor, deprived of services and if we get them we pay for them (didnt tax cover it?) and we are no safer actually id rather be in the dark ages at least i would see it coming


perhaps we should be thankful for all the things we don't have

maybe there is a better way, of which i'm unfamiliar...

huh?

[Criminal_Sniper]

micheal parenti say something like this
capitalism works yes.
But for whom? (works very well for the capitalist in 3rd world countries)
(and us back in the 1800's and early 1900's
but bush is the kind of jerk that cuts funding for social services
very large amounts ill get some numbers here
most of the good u have is from the system they claim to support but don't

[Dollar_Girl]

too true E
everyone is good at something aswell
just hope its the thing u like

and slx see how schools now teach u what they want u too?
but they also do it their way
if theres not enough students in a class then u miss out on something huge in ur life
i dont think there should be grades or years in schools
or division of subjects

now if students were just given project after another after another..and so on, and we left to do things in their own speed and style
would they not have a healthier school enviroment?

i have to teach myself how to learn now
i find myself readin faster & understanding more, typing faster and more accurate.

i cant remember shit from school cept the basics and history and science
though ive forgotten some of those things -some basic -some advanced
things are learnt through repetition, practice, and asking and trying to answer questions

if im right or not the school system is not very good
university is much better from what ive heard
i beat my friends that go to uni when it comes to computers and i dont even have the basic certificates
who knows? :p

many times in later years of highschool you get to specialise in subjects that will help you get into your degree of choice and will aid your learning. Having no subjects is not practical, because not all students are interested or have the skill to do EVERYTHING. For example, all my friends in highschool did sewing and cooking... meanwhile i did Modern History, Economics and Information Processing Technology [IPT]... but at the end of the day i can still cook better than any of those shitheads that made apple crumbles to their teachers liking, granted though, i can't sew for shit.
Having subjects allows students to choose the feilds they would like to specialise in and also helps to choose the direction of their future studies. In early years you do all basics of all subjects, later on however, u can choose those that will advantage you most.

If you dont like the fact that you miss out if there arent' enough numbers of ppl interested... then go petition the government, because public schools get minimal funding in this country. They can't even afford new maths supplies, let alone hold special classes that cost thousands if only 2 ppl attend.

As for schools teaching you only what they want to teach u... thats irrelevant, because the education system can't teach u everything there is to know, but is meant to work as medium to get you into the habbit of learning. If you only go to school and only read ur text books during school hours, and never pick up a non-curricular book after school hours, then that is not the systems fault, its a laziness of the peer to break through the square and self-educate beyond the system.

As for being allowed to work at your own pace... no that wouldnt' be a healtheir school environment, because again, it's not practical. The world isn't a place where u can lounge around and do shit at your own pace... there are deadlines, there are meetings, there is hours of research to do, statistics, presentations, on-the-spot testing of knowledge... that is why we have tests and taht is why we have to sit down, read a book, and then sit a 3 hour exam writting 900 words about it... to test analysis, to test ability to pump out something under pressure. Being allowed to 'work at your own pace' can promote laziness, and demote encouragement or drive for the student. When it comes to learning, highschool is a breeze, it is just the students desire at puberty to get lazy, rebell or think they are above doing their beset.If a student has REAL issues, there are help facilities available.

[Criminal_Sniper]

i must be a fucking idiot i swear
sorry but its my experience
and not one or two schools but over a dozen throughout N.S.W. and Victoria
qld is quite different they dont even have kindergarten so maybe its different higher up too
but ill argue with u that doing things at ur own pace is good
freedom is not freedom if u are not free to fail
by giving students a buffer and exact replicable processes leads to expectation
give them something they are not used to and they fuck up much more
its human nature to not be good at things ur not used to
but being show many ways and giving the same things many angles of attack can give them experience they will need in life
there are not many normal things going on
unless u want to do conveyer belt work

and why not having no subjects but professions instead
carpenters course
chefs course
IT professionals
(programming and hardware and general use)
marketing
lawer courses
i know they cover them in many subjects but they dont really cover them
IT is one most like that
in english u want to be a journalist u just have to be good not taught
they dont go deep enough into somethings i dont believe
i remember them teaching me science and knowing that id read more advanced stuff at home (even in the fucking newspaper)

and why are there deadlines
we have our whole lives to learn
i think people should get homeschooled
ill do it for my kids (if i ever have any lol- crazy lil buggers)
ill have bilingual (or trilingual) kids by the time they are 5 or so
they learn much faster especially languages at early stages
imma pump them up on knowledge then experiment with it
test them in life and in intelligence
cept i cant cook can i send em on a plane?
u like kids? hehehe
i can put buttons on too so ner :p hehehe

[Dollar_Girl]

i must be a fucking idiot i swear

and why not having no subjects but professions instead
carpenters course
chefs course
IT professionals
(programming and hardware and general use)
marketing
lawer courses
i know they cover them in many subjects but they dont really cover them
IT is one most like that
in english u want to be a journalist u just have to be good not taught
they dont go deep enough into somethings i dont believe
i remember them teaching me science and knowing that id read more advanced stuff at home (even in the fucking newspaper)



they do have specialised courses - it's called being an apprentice or a university/tafe student. Highschool is there to teach u basics of broad feilds, so u can get an idea of what u want to specialise in. If u dont know by the time u leave highschool u can do a broad degree at university called a bachelor of arts which consists of subjects from multitudes of specialised courses.
As for english class... it ain't a bad thing to study grammar and structure of the english language. if you leave with nothing more than knowing where to place a full-stop or 'period' as americans call it, then maybe, jsut maybe it was worth its while. Believe me, ppl do much lousier and usless things in the world, than study english and read a couple of classic books for 4 years in highschool.

Highschool isn't there to give u a profession, it's there to give u the basics of learning, demands of the world, give u some structure in life when ur young, give u an opportunity to socialise or be devestated by bullies... some students go on to be the worlds best lawyers and best scientists... others go on to shoot up their class mates... at least we can't say we lack production of variety.

I think it is important to provide a little structure to kids... and the 'real-world' is alot tougher than waking up at 7am, having ur lunch packed by your mum and going to school for 6 hours. The need for the most basic structure can help provide stability for a child, wether it is family structure or daily routine structure. I think homeschooling your child can isolate them, most kids need to talk to other kids going through the same situation of running late with assignments or writting slogans all over the toilet walls... it's part of the drama of being a student... u can't vandalise ur own home bathroom! :p thats one opportunity gone :D

i can't even sew on buttons, they always fall off. i once sewed a pillow case though... i had to do half hour of sewing a week in my jnr years of highschool... i took me all term to finish, then my mother donated it to vincent de paul or wahtever! damnit! after all that hard work!

[Criminal_Sniper]

maybe its not schools fault
maybe its the notion that we should finish school move out of home and get some work that bothers me
im learning so much while dole-bludging
im expected to do more from people who dont know what im doing
they arent bothered in how much i know and can do but what i can do for them
sometimes ouside factors can make things worse
maybe thats my experience
not being worth anything while being good for myself and to myself and others when they deserve it
happyness is not the intention of government
control and profits are

comfort is a mystery crawling out of my own skin - The package - A Perfect Circle