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eclectica
2003-06-19, 00:06
http://www.palestine4ever.net/

This is a good site to explore. There are some alternative points of view on it. My favorite part is the poetry section (http://www.palestine4ever.net/Contents.html).

Dollar_Girl
2003-06-19, 14:11
I will throw my heart at my enemies' faces
And my heart is iron and fire!
I will protect my land with the edge of the sword
So my people will know that I am the man


you know ay, reminds me of the Chechen anthem :

We were born at night, when the she-wolf whelped.
In the morning, as lions howl, we were given our names.
In eagles nests, our Mothers nursed us,
To tame a stallion, our Fathers taught us.

We were devoted to our Mothers, to people and the Native land,
And if they will need us - we'll respond courageously,
We grew up free, together with the mountain eagles,
Difficulties and obstacles we overcame with dignity.

Granite rocks will sooner fuse like lead,
Than we lose our Nobility in life and struggle.
The Earth will sooner be breached in boiling sun,
Than we appear before the world; losing our honor.

Never will we appear submissive before anyone,
Death or Freedom - we can choose only one way.
Our sisters cure our wounds by their songs,
The eyes of the beloved arouse us to the feat of arms.
If hunger gets us down - we'll gnaw the roots.

If thirst harasses us - we'll drink the grass dew.
We were born at night, when the she-wolf whelped.
God, Nation, and the Native land
We devote ourselves only to their service.

Dollar_Girl
2003-06-21, 13:53
Brief history of Lyubov Sirota (http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/chernobyl_poems/chernobyl_index.html)

Poetry (http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/chernobyl_poems/chernobyl_poems.html)


My mother often talks of Chernobyl, and how neighbouring countries reacted to the nuclear disaster.

eclectica
2003-06-22, 05:33
Originally posted by Dollar_Girl
My mother often talks of Chernobyl, and how neighbouring countries reacted to the nuclear disaster.
Why is your mother interested so much in Chernobyl?

The reactor was a "Light water graphite-moderated reactor (RBMK)". Here is information on various types of reactors used:
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf32.htm

I found this to be informative as to why the reactor failed. They were actually tinkering with it, trying to make it safer.
http://www.npp.hu/tortenelem/balesetek3-e.htm

Dollar_Girl
2003-06-22, 06:59
Well the nuclear disaster occured while we were migrating through europe leaving communist [Czecho]Slovakia which is on the border of the Ukraine. Many burned all their crops all across Europe, killed their cows etc... people speak of the great fires after Chernobyl, associating it with hell, others did nothing and consumed massively contaminated food and milk, not just immediately, but many years after... what else could ordinary people do? There is no salvation after such disasters, it is like being traped in a haunted castle... you may not see your true living environment, but you always know something is wrong.

eclectica
2003-06-23, 09:33
When it comes to fear, I am oblivious to hidden dangers like radiation.