Buddhism in a Nutshell

[tim]

culled from Crim

There are four noble truths which are:

1)Birth is suffering, decay is suffering, to be united with the unplesant is suffering, to be seperated from the pleasant is suffering, not to recieve what one desires is suffering, in brief, the five aggregates of attachment are suffering.

2)it is the craving which produces these sufferings

3)the destruction of craving leads to no suffering

4)and the path that leads to it is the eightfold path

[b]The eightfold path

1) right understanding

2)right thoughts

3)right speech

4)right action

5)right livelihood

6)right effort

7)right mindfullness

8)right concentration

[Criminal_Sniper]

nicely put Tim
im going to a meditation retreat soon
for about 3 days
though i would like more
concentration is gained through meditation
the still mind is like a pond of water with no ripples
as soon as many ripples and splashed start it is hard to see ur reflection

this made me kick the drugs by making me feel so good
theres got to be something to it :p

[tim]

I'm against meditation because I had that shit shoved down my throat when I was in highschool by my French teacher who was into that new age crap and thought it would help us to learn better.
I also studied some about it when reading a book on Ninjitsu..and tried a few of the techniques mentioned there...i remember i did feel something from a few of those exercises that wasn't quite normal..that is to say: out of the ordinary..and my memory retention was better on tests..but there's something about opening yourself up to occultic influences and demon possession that I just don't like.

[Criminal_Sniper]

no Tim u do not understand
i have something for u to dl from me so that u can understand it better
Tibetans are into demonic shit not me
and there is nothing occult about it
occult steals and twists
u did feel some benefits but there are so many more
being able to sleep nothing each day or 3 hours is one i have gained
people sleep thier lives away

[tim]

people sleep thier lives away

and even when awake some still piss them away.

[Criminal_Sniper]

and then 9 to 5 them away
lives are for living
i think the whole world needs a constitution built on democracy with communistic distrbution (do not think china, russia etc)
they are dictators that try to make themselves look good

i hope u can come to forget the evil that u see in meditation
it really is for pureness of the mind
evil demons can only use the minds of evil men
if that were not the case who would know good and evil?
would there be a difference?

[tim]

and then 9 to 5 them away
lives are for living
i think the whole world needs a constitution built on democracy with communistic distrbution (do not think china, russia etc)
they are dictators that try to make themselves look good

i hope u can come to forget the evil that u see in meditation
it really is for pureness of the mind
evil demons can only use the minds of evil men
if that were not the case who would know good and evil?
would there be a difference?

meditation can also be a form of quiet concentration and study...dude u believe in demons?

[Criminal_Sniper]

yeah why not?
dosent mean i worship them
u know i do not worship
meditaion can calm u so study is easier
but life in general can be

[nanook]

and then 9 to 5 them away
lives are for living
i think the whole world needs a constitution built on democracy with communistic distrbution (do not think china, russia etc)
they are dictators that try to make themselves look good

i hope u can come to forget the evil that u see in meditation
it really is for pureness of the mind
evil demons can only use the minds of evil men
if that were not the case who would know good and evil?
would there be a difference?

Good topic. Let's just say this. Supposebly we only use 10% of our human brains. I believe there is much we could do and control within ourselves, if we did use the full extent of them. I believe in meditation and the conditioning of the mind.
Tim, if you're mind and heart are good to start with, then no outside force can change that, unless, you yourself, will it.

[Criminal_Sniper]

lol
my mind is almost 3 times more active than normal when it is hard at work
i am trying to still it though so it can be used when needed
i think they burn out slightly
einstein had a slightly different brain
larger lobes and no division
thats part of the reason he could get great results when he took the time to
he could exist in higher planes of thought
meditation would have made him the smartest ever
outside influences can get to us not always when we will them but because we do not have total control or we are ignorant and others find it easier to get on board
somethings feed on certain thought patterns
imagine a world where our minds are the only things
mixed with no matter
that place sounds like nibbana (nirvana)

ive got a good meditation book but no place to put it
ill ask buddha net if i can put some of thier stuff on my site for getting it out to u guys
save some of thier bandwidth
ive got 20 G spare a month :p
i want to make my site into a place to discuss the mind and these kinds of things
i want it to be a spiritual center or some sort
anyone interested?

[tim]

lol
my mind is almost 3 times more active than normal when it is hard at work
i am trying to still it though so it can be used when needed
i think they burn out slightly
einstein had a slightly different brain
larger lobes and no division
thats part of the reason he could get great results when he took the time to
he could exist in higher planes of thought
meditation would have made him the smartest ever
outside influences can get to us not always when we will them but because we do not have total control or we are ignorant and others find it easier to get on board
somethings feed on certain thought patterns
imagine a world where our minds are the only things
mixed with no matter
that place sounds like nibbana (nirvana)

ive got a good meditation book but no place to put it
ill ask buddha net if i can put some of thier stuff on my site for getting it out to u guys
save some of thier bandwidth
ive got 20 G spare a month :p
i want to make my site into a place to discuss the mind and these kinds of things
i want it to be a spiritual center or some sort
anyone interested?

that's what I was going to ask you about:
how do you meditate?
Obviously your doing something which works for you...so what is it..describe what you do exactly and what happens to you during this peaceful contemplation of whatever it is. ;) :)

[nanook]

Just give me the link, dude. I'll check it out.

[nicobie]

no Tim u do not understand.....

And u do? person with a shit nic?

[Criminal_Sniper]

i understand a great deal on the subject and i have direct experiences
get a life nicobie that is based on something other than pointing out false bullshit that u make up in ur head

or u trying to make out that i think i know everything?
i have never claimed it and in FACT (somthing alien to u) i comfirm the opposite

heres the links for people without closed minds
the main site
Buddhanet (http://www.buddhanet.net/)

go to ebook library and go to either meditation or general and gain some ideas on the subject as a whole

i want to get these up on my site soon

thing is to take things slow and understand what u will and it will all take form over time
do not give up on things
u are already admiting defeat if u recognise u may give up
i have much faith in u guys that are up to it

[Criminal_Sniper]

It is a teaching to be not so much believed as understood and seen in operation

[Criminal_Sniper]

just found out i have irreversable cancer in my lower jaw thats spread and wrapped round my brain
nice way to put me in a bad mood but im not going to be intimidated
i can see my third eye when i close my eyes
i will not come back

[tim]

just found out i have irreversable cancer in my lower jaw thats spread and wrapped round my brain
nice way to put me in a bad mood but im not going to be intimidated
i can see my third eye when i close my eyes
i will not come back

wtf get on msn and let's talk about this.

[Criminal_Sniper]

all started from a sore throat u know? why i got it checked
i never get sick
somehow ive known all along
i scan my body while meditating and i didnt realise but there was a void
something i couldnt explain
but i knew it was not part of me

i am so sorry i cannot complete all of my duties i have set for myself but i can do what i can in what time i have
ive already accepted death so there is no stopping me now
do not treat me differently please
thats all i ask

maybe i will get to die for u all after all :D

[nanook]

Sniper. Fuck. No, I don't want to treat you any differently.

[Criminal_Sniper]

awesome
glad we can be friends

[Criminal_Sniper]

i found out why the throat was playing up its halfway down on the left side almost at my voice box
ive been finding it harder to swallow for some time but its been getting worse

problem is right now ive got a double whammy
something fucked with the glands
i can drink some vitamins and minerals in orange mango juice but im still hungry till ... i do not know when
i will not take any medicine apart from natural things

i am ready to die
but to not sing?
but enough of my shit anyway
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morality (sila) contains :

right speech - refraining from falshoods, slandering, harsh words, frivolous talk

right action - refraining from killing & stealing

right livelihood - 5 barred trades (arms, breeding animals for death, human trade, poison selling, selling intoxicating drinks and substances)

concentration (samadhi) contains :

right effort - fourfold - discard past evil
- prevent future evil
- promote past good
- develop past and present good

right mindfulness - mindfulness of body, sensations, mind and phenomena

right concentration - develop a one-pointed mind
(meditation is great for this)

wisdom (panna) contains :

right understanding - is to know urself and the noble truths

right thoughts - lack of lust (as oposed to love)
- lack of benevolent thoughts
- lack of illwill
- lack of thoughts to harm

hope i got all that right
there is always more to it
and u havent seen the philiosophical/phychological parts of it yet
we havent even got into it

a nutshell
like how big stephen hawkings one round the universe isnt big enough for this :p

[Dollar_Girl]

Is this true? Because if you are pulling a prank, i will go and break your neck.

[Criminal_Sniper]

yeah
do not be so harsh ive no reason to lie
and no need for sympathy
the more i get the more sorry i would feel for myself

its not so bad (id like to think so)
at least i will die with more dignity i believe

im trying not to cry
but i know i am happy makin the most of it
:)

[nanook]

i am ready to die


You know, people beat this thing. It's always a toss up, who, but it's true.
You of all people should know that the mind is very powerful and I believe, erradicate the cancer. You just have to tell it to and believe it.
And pray. Or for you, mantra.

[Criminal_Sniper]

i understand that and i am and will do anything i can
its a little difficult for them to removeany without me dying so im on my own in that regard
but im glad to know in have some support
thankyou from the deepest depths of my heart

[Dollar_Girl]

I don't know what to say dude. you say you're ready to die? what a load of shit. People have overcome the greatest challenges to the physical form, the mental form... Don't ever be ready to die. Be ready to live, prepare for life, not for death. The greatest challenges come in life, u need to work towards that, prepare for that, overcome that.

and if you gotta cry, then cry. but i know from experience once u start crying, it's hard to stop. you find the tears dragging on for months.

we're always here if you're in the mood for a bit of whining or arguing, or maybe, if you are really lucky, some decent conversation. You know what we're like, something about us must have appealed to u, coz u stuck around.

i know you probably don't want a big deal to be made about all of this, but truth is, u can't dictate that. i read what u wrote last night, and i went to bed thinking about it and woke up thinking about it. all i can say dude, is that i hope there is someone there to hug u when you feel alone. if not, you're more than welcome to crash on my couch.

[Criminal_Sniper]

im used to being alone though thanx
(think we just started WWIII though lmao)

what i mean by ready to die let me explain
if i think ive got plenty of time left u tend procrastinate
a lot of "i'm gunna"
i am living like i could die tommorow
ive probably got a couple of years at most unless i can fight it somehow
its been there my whole life just slowly picking up speed

my mind is ripe and almost time to be cut from the tree

[tim]

my mind is ripe and almost time to be cut from the tree

I think your mind is full of shit and so are you.

[Criminal_Sniper]

thats what u think
what u know is much different

nothing is fixed or permanent
actions have consequences
change is possible

[tim]

it takes courage..REAL COURAGE to see the good in someone especially when NO ONE ELSE sees it.

[tim]

did you stop being my friend merely because I tore you down, destroyed your illusions about yourself...the same as I did with Dollar_Girl earlier in this year...I now have done with you.

Will/are your reactions going to be the same?

I'd learn much from this if they were..maybe I'd learn to ignore the things that I see in others and understand what not to point out.

[Criminal_Sniper]

u showed me u were not my friend so i returned the favour
u broke nothing just confirmed my own strength and u have, once again, shown u manipulate and twist things top ur liking

u have absolutely no idea what u are talking about
it not just off to the side it in the wrong direction
something u are too crazy to see

if our reactions would be the same would it be that we are reacting to something in a real way?

something u cannot or will not do

its pathetic dude

what do people have to say to u to get it through

stop being so stupid

[tim]

u showed me u were not my friend so i returned the favour
u broke nothing just confirmed my own strength and u have, once again, shown u manipulate and twist things top ur liking

u have absolutely no idea what u are talking about
it not just off to the side it in the wrong direction
something u are too crazy to see

if our reactions would be the same would it be that we are reacting to something in a real way?

something u cannot or will not do

its pathetic dude

what do people have to say to u to get it through

stop being so stupid

WE meaning you (crimian) and I (tim) WERE FRIENDS up until a little while ago today when we had this ONE CONVERSATION i am posting as an attachment.

Dollar_Girl and I were also friends until March 7, 2004 when we had ONE similiar conversation where I told her, "hey don't you care about mekajinn?"

that ended that 'friendship' and according to you THIS CONVERSATION ended yours (crimian) and my (tim) friendship.

Note: eclectica has been taking it upon himself to delete all my attachments so if its not here that is the reason for why it isn't here.

I suggest you SAVE this conversation as it marks some pivotal point or milestone here in your life? my life? our lives..as it is the single event that caused the death of our friendship AS YOU'VE DECIDED.

I can also do the same thing for DOLLAR_GIRL i can post EXACTLY what stopped her from being my friend.

Look it over eclectica and slx..examine it..study it carefully and let's talk about what I did wrong here..especially your Katarina since the situations ARE similiar.

[tim]

so a friendship can be lost on the basis of ONE CONVERSATION..fuck all the caring that preceded or went before it.

Is such a friendship worth having if it is indeed that fragile?

makes u question the reality of it afterall.

If i can say one bad thing to you and never be forgiven again.

[Criminal_Sniper]

this is getting more and more pathetic all the time
the truth lol
this has been long coming dude

u can be forgiven but u make no attempt
ur aim is crazy

[nicobie]

& u expected?

[Criminal_Sniper]

yeah the difference between me and u nic is i try
i see change is possible
some people just need a bigger kick

[nanook]

I didn't even read it. You shouldn't be posting personal shit from your "friends" anyway. And you wonder why people are pissed and don't trust you.
That is just low.

[tim]

yeah the difference between me and u nic is i try
i see change is possible
some people just need a bigger kick

Crim nicobie was unclear in who he was directing that question to.

@raar I disagree...sometimes that's the only way to get to the truth...otherwise you have my version the other person's version and then what really happened.

what really happened is in the log...by reading it you can see who the lying piece of shit really is.

[tim]

Crim nicobie was unclear in who he was directing that question to.

@raar I disagree...sometimes that's the only way to get to the truth...otherwise you have my version the other person's version and then what really happened.

what really happened is in the log...by reading it you can see who the lying piece of shit really is.


for the record. I am not calling crim a 'lying piece of shit'. Just stating that we all have our own personal versions of events. Different perspectives on the same thing...i'm sure if you do read that log you may even have your own views on 'what really happened'.

[tim]

the thing to be clear here on is this:
something happened or happens.
people that were there give their account of what they saw.
In this case, Criminal_Sniper and I were the only two people 'there' when whatever happened took place.
The log is unbiased.
You draw your own conclusions from it.

[Criminal_Sniper]

that is ur problem
u claim that people are commiting some mojor crime to u the holy bastard of God
what have i done?
and if u were not claiming i was a liar then who?
just cause u lost ur edit ability ur bullshit is becoming more and more obvious
as i said do u think when u post?

my personal version is that u are manipulative, lying, ignorant, deluded, selfish, disgustingly pathetic when it comes to maintaining loving relationships if u ever get into one that has not got a hidden agenda.

want to have a vote on who the deluded self righteous prick is here?
id be happt to i have faith in myself
u have distrust in urself which extends to all others

i do worry about the truth hurting u anymore
as u are willing to try and hurt me with untruth

and get this this oddball believes there is such a thing as half truth
is that half lying and half truth telling?
not good enough

all of ur morals and ideals are bogus
or they are part of the manipulation

sometimes public perception can change a man
a wise man know in his heart what is right without the judgement of others we may never get to walk that path
as i said some need a bigger kick than others

[tim]

I regret posting that log...anyone who reads it can see I'm clearly the liar here.

[Criminal_Sniper]

depends dude
sometimes people believe what they are saying and have no intention to lie
lying is
the ability and reason to manipulate through false words and doing it
to me anyway as i see it

[Criminal_Sniper]

people do not always know the false part and do not alwayse realise the manipulative part

[tim]

people do not always know the false part and do not alwayse realise the manipulative part

you are very wise...are you still my friend?
is it possible for you to stay my friend and allow me to continue to despitefully use you?

[Criminal_Sniper]

ill bide my time
cool?
ill be like a lice on a back of a monkey without another monkey around to pick it off