Grokster at Supreme Court

[assorted]

Sounds like we're going to be getting good news in the Supreme Court Grokster case. I've heard Scalia almost always walks in with his mind decided and leads with questions toward his side (from a New Yorker article last week). Judging by his questions it seems like he's drifting towards Grokster. And the liberal judges will certainly side toward Grokster, and Thomas follows Scalia like a little bitch so... This could be near unanimous!

Let's everyone keep our p2p fingers crossed, eh?

[eclectica]

It's the p2p case that everybody is paying attention to. I like when cases reach the Supreme Court, because I think they are the only branch of the government that has behaved with integrity lately and they seem to be the only people left who have a sense of fairness, who make decisions based on the merits, and who have the courage to stand by what is right and to stand up to tyranny and corruption in other branches of the government.

If the Supreme Court rules against Grokster because of its p2p technology, it would cause a change in the way things have been done ever since their 1984 Betamax decision, in which VCR manufacturers were not held accountable for the potential copyright infringement of the VCR machines they were selling. I expect the Supreme Court to rule in favor of Grokster on the aspect of the p2p technology.

If Grokster loses it's not the end of filesharing, because there are still open source p2p programs which can't be shut down. MGM has undoubtably had more movies of theirs traded by way of BitTorrent than by way of Grokster, but it would be harder for them to build any case against BitTorrent developer Bram Cohen due to BitTorrent being open source and him making no money except donations off of it. So the very commercialism of these p2p companies has also increased their risk of lawsuits. Sharman Networks is currently being sued by ARIA in Australia.

[assorted]

BitTorrent also wouldn't work because it has a lot of non-infringing uses and is, in fact, used in a ton of ways that don't infringe copyright. Grokster and the others p2ps have always had a tougher arguement in terms of that. At the least, they are barely used for anything non-infringing, while you'll find legal uses of bittorrent all over the net since it's truly a great way to distribute popular, large, files - and not just ones where the users don't possess the copyright to distribute.

eclectica, either ban Tim or moderate enough to delete his posts that have nothing to do with the threads in question. I mean, I clean spam off b00mb0x all the time and I don't think I'm stifling freedom of speech. You can do the same.

It's the p2p case that everybody is paying attention to. I like when cases reach the Supreme Court, because I think they are the only branch of the government that has behaved with integrity lately and they seem to be the only people left who have a sense of fairness, who make decisions based on the merits, and who have the courage to stand by what is right and to stand up to tyranny and corruption in other branches of the government.

If the Supreme Court rules against Grokster because of its p2p technology, it would cause a change in the way things have been done ever since their 1984 Betamax decision, in which VCR manufacturers were not held accountable for the potential copyright infringement of the VCR machines they were selling. I expect the Supreme Court to rule in favor of Grokster on the aspect of the p2p technology.

If Grokster loses it's not the end of filesharing, because there are still open source p2p programs which can't be shut down. MGM has undoubtably had more movies of theirs traded by way of BitTorrent than by way of Grokster, but it would be harder for them to build any case against BitTorrent developer Bram Cohen due to BitTorrent being open source and him making no money except donations off of it. So the very commercialism of these p2p companies has also increased their risk of lawsuits. Sharman Networks is currently being sued by ARIA in Australia.

[assorted]

eclectica, you look like an idiot for letting this guy post here. i'm out. good luck with this.

[slx]

eclectica, you look like an idiot for letting this guy post here. i'm out. good luck with this.lol....i hate being the proverbial asshole these days but dude.....

it's you that is looking like the idiot....surely you relate to the frredoms we're all entitled....like him or not timmy's welcome to be whatever it is he is

it's online society...get a grip...

and say...assorted....you are right about tim....he is an asshole.... a perv... a sick mothefuker but like nic wants, we can't shoot him...if we could, i'd have done it myself, long ago

i'm not defending tim...just the rights we're all entitled to

[Criminal_Sniper]

why would u shoot him?
so will u one day be so impatient as to shoot someone who simply drops a cup or something at ur house
something so small but the worst u can pick up on
there will always be something
noticed that?
u need tests to be patient
if u want to be a irrational luny go ahead but do not go judging people like u are of some higher standard
u are all a bit crazy as am i
so what
stop taking everything so damn personal
lets get to the meat instead of deciding on how will go about it (said by a vegetarian but it displays my point :p)

get used to thing not being what u want them to be
some things are senseless to leave like some laws that could be changed or work that could benefit us in any way
not simply one person doing work for one or few
one doing work for one or all
personal and public

but law is bukllshit if ya ask me
but i think u people could relate to that really well because of the time spent talking about talking
preparing to prepare

our culture is procrastination or irrational
u guys show it well
not saying i do not though

not saying u have to be friends but get over it a little u know
i find Tim a great person to talk to
am i a pervert?
not a sick one at least :p
and i hope im not an asshole (at least when im not half awake)
i do not think he is either
it's the bullshit u guys say and throw around from what i have read

one thinks they will win like a football team
but the ref is also playing??? so is the crowd???
what are the odds
anyway good luck haha