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eclectica
2005-12-10, 15:45
P2P Roses
by Rafael Venegas gvenegas.com (http://www.gvenegas.com/)
(originally posted at p2pnet.net 2005-12-09 here (http://p2pnet.net/index.php?page=comment&story=7230&comment=26045))

Did you hear about the Rose Industry Association of America?

A recent study has indicated that amateur gardeners are now propagating roses by using plant cuttings from existing plants and not buying plants from commercial producers. This is the result of the propagation of web plant-cuttings to plant (P2P) sites that show gardeners how to grow rose plants from cuttings, a piracy that is costing RIAA members losses in sales of several billion dollars per year. Because of severe P2P theft, sales of roses have dropped 10 percent since a year ago, claims RIAA spokesperson Vito Hoover.

RIAA has announced that it will work with the Justice Department to eliminate all P2P sites. RIAA claims that too many Americans, instead of buying all the needed rose plants at the nursery or in stores are simply using cuttings from already purchased plants. As a result one plant is sold and the buyer of that single plant winds up with many copies of the plant. Some people are even sharing their plants, allowing others to take cuttings from original plants to produce fake copies of RIAA roses. The copying of roses infringes the rights of RIAA members to be the only growers of roses.

RIAA has asked the Departments of Agriculture and Justice to intervene. As a result Rose growers are now packing roses with an FBI warning that growing a rose plant from cuttings is illegal and could lead to criminal charges.

The Justice Department has published a policy guideline indicating that rose P2P will be treated as a new crime category: Rose piracy. President Bush has indicated he supports this initiative to wipe out rose piracy here and abroad as part of his anti terrorism campaign.

Mr. Hoover also announced that Congress is working on a RIAA supported bill to authorize FBI agents to, without a court order, inspect rose gardens and request proof-of-purchase receipts from the gardener. If the gardener fails to prove he/she purchased all the rose plants in the garden, a summary arrest can be made and sentences of up to 10 years in jail may be sought.

When asked about what protection is being given to other plants to prevent their infringement, Mr. Hoover said that the RIAA is only concerned about roses.

anxietyculture.com
2005-12-11, 17:14
P2P Roses
by Rafael Venegas gvenegas.com (http://www.gvenegas.com/)
(originally posted at p2pnet.net 2005-12-09 here (http://p2pnet.net/index.php?page=comment&story=7230&comment=26045))

Did you hear about the Rose Industry Association of America?

A recent study has indicated that amateur gardeners are now propagating roses by using plant cuttings from existing plants and not buying plants from commercial producers. This is the result of the propagation of web plant-cuttings to plant (P2P) sites that show gardeners how to grow rose plants from cuttings, a piracy that is costing RIAA members losses in sales of several billion dollars per year. Because of severe P2P theft, sales of roses have dropped 10 percent since a year ago, claims RIAA spokesperson Vito Hoover.

RIAA has announced that it will work with the Justice Department to eliminate all P2P sites. RIAA claims that too many Americans, instead of buying all the needed rose plants at the nursery or in stores are simply using cuttings from already purchased plants. As a result one plant is sold and the buyer of that single plant winds up with many copies of the plant. Some people are even sharing their plants, allowing others to take cuttings from original plants to produce fake copies of RIAA roses. The copying of roses infringes the rights of RIAA members to be the only growers of roses.

RIAA has asked the Departments of Agriculture and Justice to intervene. As a result Rose growers are now packing roses with an FBI warning that growing a rose plant from cuttings is illegal and could lead to criminal charges.

The Justice Department has published a policy guideline indicating that rose P2P will be treated as a new crime category: Rose piracy. President Bush has indicated he supports this initiative to wipe out rose piracy here and abroad as part of his anti terrorism campaign.

Mr. Hoover also announced that Congress is working on a RIAA supported bill to authorize FBI agents to, without a court order, inspect rose gardens and request proof-of-purchase receipts from the gardener. If the gardener fails to prove he/she purchased all the rose plants in the garden, a summary arrest can be made and sentences of up to 10 years in jail may be sought.

When asked about what protection is being given to other plants to prevent their infringement, Mr. Hoover said that the RIAA is only concerned about roses.
Top rose grower George Michael has just signed a multi-million dollar deal with the Monsanto corporation, who will help him promote & distribute his newest roses this Spring...

To view the new roses, a special pair of glasses are required, or they appear blurred & indistinct.

Following a recent decline in sales, Monsanto will require that before the glasses work, a session key will have to be downloaded from their website, which will unlock the glasses long enough to let the wearer enjoy the rose-viewing event for three-&-a-half minutes.

Extra minutes can be purchased online, or paid for by sms text message.

A spokesman for Monsanto earlier today said "George & ourselves have designed these roses, & we're bloody well going to be damned if we're going to let some bunch of kids on the internet encourage people to enjoy them while depriving us of the money we need to buy more fuel for our motorboats."

George Michael fans have yet to react to news of this latest deal.

Now back to Eclectica in the studio...

slx
2005-12-12, 01:04
lol.....

this appears to be a jest but many roses you see at the retailer each year still have active patents which forbid any form of propogation without authority from the patent holder

being an avid gardner, i'd hate for the rose industry to see this and get any bright ideas as a result...

btw....i've been stemming roses for years...why buy them when you can take a cutting, then give a rose to your friend and show him how to grow a cutting so he can teach his pal..................ad infinitum

anxietyculture.com
2005-12-12, 07:13
lol.....

this appears to be a jest but many roses you see at the retailer each year still have active patents which forbid any form of propogation without authority from the patent holder

being an avid gardner, i'd hate for the rose industry to see this and get any bright ideas as a result...

btw....i've been stemming roses for years...why buy them when you can take a cutting, then give a rose to your friend and show him how to grow a cutting so he can teach his pal..................ad infinitum
Yeah, I used to do the same, & soon a network of rose-growers built up & things got really good, till the ones who'd been in charge of putting growers from different countries in touch with each other started getting too big for their boots, & refusing to share information with growers with whom they had personal disputes.

Someone even made a "Roseseek budget" parody site & got banned from an entire network of rosegrowers just because the egos of those at the top couldn't take it. I suppose the solution is decentralised rosesharing, where there is no "at the top".